tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post2943834660327794927..comments2023-09-01T16:11:44.564+08:00Comments on Daniel's Place - (Reformata et semper reformanda): Questions regarding ministry and educationDaniel Chttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-4909805190303020082014-04-28T13:53:21.541+08:002014-04-28T13:53:21.541+08:00@Swee:
Yes, the term "Calvinist" was in...@Swee:<br /><br />Yes, the term "Calvinist" was initially a slur used to tar ministers coming out of Geneva and the churches they founded.<br /><br />There are people with little education, and some of them have been used by God in evangelism and elsewhere. That is not my concern. My concern is that those called to the ministry ought to seek education unless it is impossible to get one.Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-40282819246450584982014-04-28T13:17:44.691+08:002014-04-28T13:17:44.691+08:00Hi Daniel,
You answered well. Those who are saved...Hi Daniel,<br /><br />You answered well. Those who are saved by grace through faith are followers of the Lord God, Jesus Christ and not followers of Jacobus Arminius or John Calvin who are sinners saved by grace. Their letters and writings are not included in the inerrant Holy Scriptures. Michael Horton in his book, “For Calvinism” said that John Calvin expressed disapproval when his Lutheran Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06179345060131316895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-15581394149997532532014-04-24T12:07:11.741+08:002014-04-24T12:07:11.741+08:00@Swee Yeo,
Well, I don't know what you would ...@Swee Yeo,<br /><br />Well, I don't know what you would term as "Calvinist." I speak here as someone under care in a Reformed Church, the Presbytery of Southern California of the OPC.<br /><br />Q1. Yes, God will preserve His elect regardless of their situation. Yet, God uses means, and He often use Gospel ministers to bring in the elect, and use false ministers to bring in false Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-39551088881505583772014-04-24T11:39:23.947+08:002014-04-24T11:39:23.947+08:00Hi Daniel Chew,
After having read Michael Horton,...Hi Daniel Chew,<br /><br />After having read Michael Horton, Wayne Grudem and Gregg R Allison, I read your blog with interest as I am trying to understand how a Calvinist thinks.<br /><br />Question 1: If election is predestined at the beginning of time and not the works of men, how does the work of the pastor affect "life and death" of the elect? Surely irresistible grace will ensure Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06179345060131316895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-16988649801752525722014-03-29T02:45:45.946+08:002014-03-29T02:45:45.946+08:00@Darrel:
there were the equivalent of seminaries ...@Darrel:<br /><br />there were the equivalent of seminaries in the first 15000 years of the church. The monastaries in the medieval church function like seminaries. Before that, the church took on the mantle of the seminary herself.<br /><br />You say you find "zero biblical support," yet you persist in REFUSING to actually interact with Scripture. Anytime I post Scripture and briefly Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-21363328862900855392014-03-28T22:59:22.948+08:002014-03-28T22:59:22.948+08:00It is refreshing to see what lies in store for the...It is refreshing to see what lies in store for the church in the next few decades with such mental giants as yourself being churned out of the "seminary mill". If seminaries have been of the utmost necessity for the church then what did the poor struggling, ignorant folks do for nearly 1500 years before there was even one seminary? Please, pull another rabbit out of your hat and Darrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394480152156186566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-75312903049293153572014-03-28T17:43:22.303+08:002014-03-28T17:43:22.303+08:00@Darrel,
seriously, you need to start examining y...@Darrel,<br /><br />seriously, you need to start examining yourself. The blatant violation of Mt. 7:1 by you here, and sheer hypocrisy in your sanctimonious posturing, tells me all I need to know about you here. Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-77515538680955592412014-03-28T17:41:32.110+08:002014-03-28T17:41:32.110+08:00>So a man may be gifted to do a certain ministr...>So a man may be gifted to do a certain ministry, but never have the opportunity to use that gift to the edification of the church?<br /><br />OK, I ask a simple question: Should someone who is gifted for a certain ministry, yet is living in a homosexual relationship, have the "opportunity to use that gift to the edification of the church"?<br /><br /><br />>You don't even Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-29391935937276874802014-03-28T17:19:08.595+08:002014-03-28T17:19:08.595+08:00In the meantime, notice that I call you ignorant B...In the meantime, notice that I call you ignorant BECAUSE you assert without proof that this Q&A is "mostly useless philosophical nonsense." I have yet to see any proof that they are "nonsense." So you can critique my list as "nonsense," but when I say that this shows your ignorance, oh no, I am the big bad "wolf."<br /><br />Seriously, give me a break! Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-2229036671628339662014-03-28T17:15:08.501+08:002014-03-28T17:15:08.501+08:00As for whether many seminaries are not teaching th...As for whether many seminaries are not teaching the Word, very likely. So? Just because food is abused in gluttony, does that mean that food is bad? The issue here is not whether there are bad seminaries, but whether seminary is essential.<br /><br />As to whatever previous interactions, I do not keep track of those interactions. I'm sorry if you think that you are that important in my life, Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-36894152339930925442014-03-28T17:05:04.786+08:002014-03-28T17:05:04.786+08:00@Darrel:
I did not dismiss questions 1 to 5. I ga...@Darrel:<br /><br />I did not dismiss questions 1 to 5. I gave an answer. It might not be what you expect, but it is an answer. The fact is nurturing the Christian life is the job of the church and not the seminary, which is for academic training.<br /><br />There is no way for a lecture to teach Christian living. My seminary has Practical Theology courses, which for the most part don't work.Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-14387387328168698582014-03-27T22:52:31.614+08:002014-03-27T22:52:31.614+08:00To continue with your second response: 1. no quest...To continue with your second response: 1. no question, answered in my last post. 2. So a man may be gifted to do a certain ministry, but never have the opportunity to use that gift to the edification of the church? You don't even attempt a proof text (because there is none) but expect me to just take your word for it? Reading Eph. 4: 10-16 we have no mention of your assertion, rather the Darrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394480152156186566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-35396534830085183422014-03-27T22:08:30.016+08:002014-03-27T22:08:30.016+08:00"Terse and curt" because you dismissed #..."Terse and curt" because you dismissed #1-5 out of hand, without explanation. Which one of those do you deem unnecessary to a man of God and where exactly are they to be learned? Even if only the Biblical principle and relevant Scriptures are taught, that is preferred to "not their job". <br /><br />Forgive me for not answering the one question posed in your initial response. Darrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394480152156186566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-64892055112245849802014-03-27T17:27:35.552+08:002014-03-27T17:27:35.552+08:00#7: God speaks of women being gifted in prophecy i...#7: God speaks of women being gifted in prophecy in the NT, yet we know that women are not to prophesy or teach in the church service (1 Tim. 2:12). Similarly, women can be gifted to teach (Titus 2: 3-4) but they are not to exercise their teaching gifts except to other women. <br /><br />Therefore, gifting and calling are not the same. God may give a person certain gifts, but not call the person Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-71191843358357655822014-03-27T17:13:05.556+08:002014-03-27T17:13:05.556+08:00@Darrel:
do you actually think that a person ough...@Darrel:<br /><br />do you actually think that a person ought to know what the Bible teaches before he becomes a pastor? Is knowledge important, or is it not?<br /><br />On #9, you are proving my point. You assume that your understanding of Col. 2:8 is correct, all without actually engaging the text and what it is trying to teach. Instead, you see the word "philosophy" and think that byDaniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-57406861804661504582014-03-27T08:47:15.359+08:002014-03-27T08:47:15.359+08:00If 1-5 are not "their job" just exactly ...If 1-5 are not "their job" just exactly what is it that is taught to prepare a man to be a good minister of Jesus Christ? Seems that it makes #9 all the more valid and the warning about getting puffed up should be underlined. Your terse and curt answers don't help, nor does it help to call me ignorant of Scripture or is it that I have struck a nerve? Since I am ignorant of ScriptureDarrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394480152156186566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-71564637988638870042014-03-27T03:39:18.441+08:002014-03-27T03:39:18.441+08:00@Darrel:
1) That is not the job of a seminary
2) ...@Darrel:<br /><br />1) That is not the job of a seminary<br />2) Neither is that the job of a seminary<br />3) Yes, but it is not the job of a seminary<br />4) Not their job<br />5) Not their job<br />6) Yes<br />7) That comes from a false assumption of how the Holy Spirit give gifts. You falsely assume that the Bible speak that those who have the gifts must minister, and those without don't.Daniel Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678184721218949112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-37885000698321466542014-03-26T23:49:47.815+08:002014-03-26T23:49:47.815+08:00Does your seminary (or equivalent) teach you
1. ho...Does your seminary (or equivalent) teach you<br />1. how to walk with the Lord on a daily basis?<br />2. that humility before God (first) and men is a must?<br />3. that real knowledge begins with fear of the Lord?<br />4. that being respected, well liked, and sought out by your peers is not a successful "ministry?"<br />5. how to weep with those who weep, not just to "council"Darrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394480152156186566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19775846.post-79385451847926849792014-03-09T00:49:08.676+08:002014-03-09T00:49:08.676+08:00Probably worked fine during the early days of Prin...Probably worked fine during the early days of Princeton and Yale, but nowdays, all the liberal garbage comes out of the seminarys. Not to mention that they come out of seminary looking for a "job" like any other college grad...hirelings.<br />It appears to me from scripture, that the minister must be mature in Christ. I don't believe you mature in Christ in four years of seminary.scrapironhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02273051559951387035noreply@blogger.com